Since the sheparding visit a few weeks ago I have had three phone calls and two drop bys from the Elders . We have been gone both times they stopped by (but our son saw them and did not answer the door ). The phone messages are directed to ME not my husband, and the one left today he sounded a bit on edge . My husband thinks they just want to give me more information about blood fractions since this came up during the sheparding call and they had said the KM 06 had an insert explaining it all . I on the other hand do not feel that is all they want because why wouldn't they just leave it in the door with a note ? I have ignored all the phone calls with the Elders plea for me to return his call ......I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO HIM ANYMORE ....don't you think he would get the message ??? So what would you do ? Continue to ignore or return his call and see what is so important ?
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Elder keeps calling and calling and calling
by troubled mind insince the sheparding visit a few weeks ago i have had three phone calls and two drop bys from the elders .
we have been gone both times they stopped by (but our son saw them and did not answer the door ).
the phone messages are directed to me not my husband, and the one left today he sounded a bit on edge .
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Why Doesn't Armageddon Freak Them Out ?(Why didn't it freak us out ? )
by BluesBrother inon t v i recently saw some of the film "knowledge" starring nicholas cage .
the idea of the film was that the main character had knowledge of coming disasters .
he was distraught - desperate - panicking to try and stop it happening.
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HELLLLOOOOO ........TROUBLED MIND !!!!
Hadit, Cult Classic I felt the same way as a born in JW
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Acetaminophen is safer for me ........I have become allergic ibuprofen
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What to write in my niece's (JW) wedding card
by voodoo lady inmy very militant jw niece is marrying a jw boy who i know little about, though i presume he must have priveleges or be a pioneer for her to have dated him in the first place.
though i feel so sad at the reality she's about to face - marrying a man she barely knows who she's probably never spent time alone with - i would still like to celebrate her love, or at least these exciting new feelings that she's experiencing that she believes to be love.
(and for all i know may certainly be love).. .
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Her wedding day is not the time for you to 'try and make her think ' . If you don't support her marriage decision then don't send anything .
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How did you find the strength to leave?
by SAHARA into all of you exjws, i'm sure you've been asked this question one way or the other many times and i'm sure the answer is different for many of you, i'd like to know directly from you never having a chance to hear or read many exjw's answers to this.
knowing that you would be cut off from your family and friends and other consequences for your decision to leave, how did you ever get the strength to do it?
i mean really, i find it fascinating to know that there are so many of you who were at one time very devout, if not at the very least loyal to one of the most successful mind-contol organizations ever who believed all if not most of what the society taught and still you found the courage to risk everything once you accepted that it isn't what it claims to be.
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I was born in and raised all three of my children as Jw.
In a very short time period six yrs ago I went through some very traumatic experiences . During that time i came to realize I only had myself to really rely on . I began seeing the flaws of the religion I had dedicated my life to .
I was extremely unhappy and felt my faith had been a pack of lies . I reached a point where I just had to take my chances on leaving otherwise I felt I would die .
I worried my adult children would shun me . I didn't know what my husband would do . I wondered what my JW relatives would think . But none of those concerns or worries were as powerful as my need to keep my sanity and loyalty to myself .
I was extremely angered when I realized I had put my childrens lives in danger because I believed some old men's ideas that God would be dishonored if they had a blood transfusion to save their life . I had refused blood for three operations myself and once when my son was operated on at five yrs of age . The sober reality of what could have happened slapped me in the face and woke me up to the awakening this is just another man made religion .Men making rules for other men ,period .
One morning during the public talk I looked over at my husband and said " Let's go home " . At home i told him I was done with this religion . He was shocked and hurt . At that moment I thought he might walk out on me and leave . Instead after a tumultuous week ....we BOTH just never went back .
At first we just stayed quiet and low key . My adult children eventually have all faded on their own over the past four yrs . My in laws have cut back contact with us to just a couple of phone calls a yr . My Witness relatives have slowly cut us out of their lives ,but that is their decision not mine .
I have my husband and my kids ......and what's left of my sanity . I am happier than I have ever been .
Now after four yrs though the Elders are poking around ,I wish they could just leave me in peace . They are pushing for me to officially DA myself .....but I am a stubborn Irishwoman that has a streak of selfish pride .
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I think I have a sub-conscious desire to be D'Fd
by troubled mind inafter fading for four yrs i live like i want ,but big brother is always watching out there .
1 ) fading is not conducive with putting christmas lights on your house when witnesses live in close proximity.
2) putting apostate videos in your favorites on youtube when one of your contacts is still an active witness ,again not a good idea for a fader that still has witness relatives.
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Well I am pretty sure my actions this weekend will not go unnoticed ...thus the Elders phone call .....it probably will be a relief for me ,but not for my husband and his parents ...
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I think I have a sub-conscious desire to be D'Fd
by troubled mind inafter fading for four yrs i live like i want ,but big brother is always watching out there .
1 ) fading is not conducive with putting christmas lights on your house when witnesses live in close proximity.
2) putting apostate videos in your favorites on youtube when one of your contacts is still an active witness ,again not a good idea for a fader that still has witness relatives.
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I don't really want them having any power over me ....but they f'n do .......I can't just do what I want because it is always hanging over my head .....
I HATE THIS SO MUCH
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I think I have a sub-conscious desire to be D'Fd
by troubled mind inafter fading for four yrs i live like i want ,but big brother is always watching out there .
1 ) fading is not conducive with putting christmas lights on your house when witnesses live in close proximity.
2) putting apostate videos in your favorites on youtube when one of your contacts is still an active witness ,again not a good idea for a fader that still has witness relatives.
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After fading for four yrs I live like i want ,but Big Brother is always watching out there .
1 ) Fading is not conducive with putting Christmas lights on your house when Witnesses live in close proximity
2) Putting Apostate videos in your favorites on youtube when one of your contacts is still an active witness ,again not a good idea for a fader that still has Witness relatives
3) Drinking a bit too much in public and sharing a drag off a cigarette in front of an exjw blabber mouth that still reports to her Mother REALLY bad idea .....
4) Admitting to Elder you think 'new light ' is BS .......felt really good ,but will no doubt go over like a lead balloon with his buddies back at the KH club
Getting a message on answering machine from Elder wanting to come over for another visit ..........feels like my sub-conscious may get it's wish after all
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WT March 15, 2010 - Page 27
by St George of England inthis article to be studied in two weeks time, in paragraph 13, footnote says: "jesus is the mediator of that covenant, not a participant.
as the mediator, he evidently did not partake of the emblems.".
(note use of evidently again!).
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I remember them teaching that Jesus ate Passover supper together with the disciples. Then AfTER the passover meal He performed this new ritual ,after Judas had been excused . So he may not have eaten the bread or drank the wine when he introduced it as a new covenant .
At least that is how I remember it .
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Wasted life.
by Heartofaboy inmy parents are in their 80's.. they have been jw's since the late 1950's.. they both have serious misgivings about the way the organisation is going & they feel lost.. however it has been a damned hard struggle over all those years being jw's & raising a family in the 'truth' & they do not feel they can turn their back on it.. what can i say to help them?
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I think I know how your parents feel .I apologized to my kids for raising them as Witnesses.....I felt so bad for them missing out in so much as kids . My oldest son made me feel much better after he told me he was happy being raised the way he was. All three have now left the Watchtower organization ,but none seem to be bitter .They are young and focused on their futures . I think it is us older ones that have more regrets because WE missed out on so much . I think you just have to keep on reminding your parents that you are happy and it is because of them not in spite of them . You are a very fortunate family because you are open ,honest and loving ....what more can any of us ask for ? You sound like a loving family just keep them looking forward enjoying each day that comes . A wasted life is only one that we purposely waste after seeing some fault and never correcting it .